Comments on: what does your ministry marquis say? http://www.kellycain.com/2009/04/marquis/ the pursuit of life to the full Mon, 30 Jan 2012 01:06:29 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Rich Street http://www.kellycain.com/2009/04/marquis/comment-page-1/#comment-193 Rich Street Thu, 16 Apr 2009 00:56:27 +0000 http://www.kellycain.com/?p=626#comment-193 Thanks for the post. I might be in the minority here when I say that I like the new facebook structure. I love to be able to post something on someone's wall (e.g. an article from everystudent.com or a good video from youtube). Obviously, I can put it on my own wall or put the URL in my twitter updates. It is not that we just use social media strictly by it's own (although I think that is still necessary and every increasingly so) but it goes with a more integrated approach to campus ministry. I need to be able to share the Gospel with people face to face as well as augment those conversations with social media (a post on a common blog or a facebook post or tweet directing someone I've talked to to an article or video or mp3 or whatever on the web that is relevant to our conversation). Also, it works in reverse where there is someone I meet online and then am able to augment our online conversations with face to face ones. You just can't separate the 2 and say that I'm strictly doing online ministry (or using a strictly online approach) or the reverse where I doing strictly face to face ministry. That's just not a 21st century approach. As far as the church goes or CCC for that matter, the leadership is mostly over 40 something people who have never used social media when we (I include myself in that over 40 club :) were on campus and thus don't see its necessity or relevance. However, what makes this problem even worse is that we are training the next generation of campus leaders according to the same models and methods that we learned which were totally absent of using any sort of online tools. If the church or CCC wants to continue to thrive and survive we have got to embrace a more online approach or we're going to go the way of the dinosaurs. Thanks for the post. I might be in the minority here when I say that I like the new facebook structure. I love to be able to post something on someone’s wall (e.g. an article from everystudent.com or a good video from youtube). Obviously, I can put it on my own wall or put the URL in my twitter updates.

It is not that we just use social media strictly by it’s own (although I think that is still necessary and every increasingly so) but it goes with a more integrated approach to campus ministry. I need to be able to share the Gospel with people face to face as well as augment those conversations with social media (a post on a common blog or a facebook post or tweet directing someone I’ve talked to to an article or video or mp3 or whatever on the web that is relevant to our conversation). Also, it works in reverse where there is someone I meet online and then am able to augment our online conversations with face to face ones. You just can’t separate the 2 and say that I’m strictly doing online ministry (or using a strictly online approach) or the reverse where I doing strictly face to face ministry. That’s just not a 21st century approach.

As far as the church goes or CCC for that matter, the leadership is mostly over 40 something people who have never used social media when we (I include myself in that over 40 club :) were on campus and thus don’t see its necessity or relevance. However, what makes this problem even worse is that we are training the next generation of campus leaders according to the same models and methods that we learned which were totally absent of using any sort of online tools. If the church or CCC wants to continue to thrive and survive we have got to embrace a more online approach or we’re going to go the way of the dinosaurs.

]]> By: Daniel Curran http://www.kellycain.com/2009/04/marquis/comment-page-1/#comment-192 Daniel Curran Wed, 15 Apr 2009 23:22:57 +0000 http://www.kellycain.com/?p=626#comment-192 twitter is like the buzz at the street corner, or at the water cooler or at the lunch table. It's worthwhileness correlates to the quality of words spoken, ...and the timing of those words. It can have the same effect as "salt and light" ---if indeed those qualities are seasoning and illuminating the heart of the one Twittering. We have all this marvelous technolgy --- but it will not be transforming unless the soul of the one using it is full of faith, hope and love. twitter is like the buzz at the street corner, or at the water cooler or at the lunch table. It’s worthwhileness correlates to the quality of words spoken, …and the timing of those words. It can have the same effect as “salt and light” —if indeed those qualities are seasoning and illuminating the heart of the one Twittering. We have all this marvelous technolgy — but it will not be transforming unless the soul of the one using it is full of faith, hope and love.

]]> By: Stephanie Raquel http://www.kellycain.com/2009/04/marquis/comment-page-1/#comment-191 Stephanie Raquel Wed, 15 Apr 2009 14:01:11 +0000 http://www.kellycain.com/?p=626#comment-191 Kelly, First of all, I loved that diagram/ chart of all of the available social media tools. Great stuff! Briefly, let me just say I am a Crusade alum with a degree in Media Studies, so all of the impacts of media on society are fascinating to me. I went to the U. of Illinois and first met David Martinelli when he was still in grad school and we went door-to-door during Christmas Conference in Indy. Currently I'm a full-time mom of three, leading a discipleship group in my church. My husband is an entrepreneur who's launching a social networking web site for sports fans, www.fanfuego.com. That being said, I love the quote about using social media within a gospel-centered diet. Yes, churches and ministry organizations need to use *every available tool* to reach others for Christ. At the same time, so do individuals. And ultimately, I think we can agree the best use of social media tools will stem from people having a genuine heart to reach the lost. That, however, does not just happen. It takes time for people to grow in their walks and develop a heart of compassion, and to see what that looks like in real life. It means having an open seat within a church small group, taking a leap of faith to invite someone to attend a weekly meeting with you, praying over a Top Ten list and watching God show up and show off. It involves authentic Christ-followers sharing their struggles, and yet genuinely striving to follow God and make wise choices. So in the end, social media tools can reinforce people's beliefs, and even promote or introduce seekers and carnal Christians to spiritual truths. But beyond that, it still comes down to God's people spending quantity time with God's people to change the world. Kelly,

First of all, I loved that diagram/ chart of all of the available social media tools. Great stuff!

Briefly, let me just say I am a Crusade alum with a degree in Media Studies, so all of the impacts of media on society are fascinating to me. I went to the U. of Illinois and first met David Martinelli when he was still in grad school and we went door-to-door during Christmas Conference in Indy. Currently I’m a full-time mom of three, leading a discipleship group in my church. My husband is an entrepreneur who’s launching a social networking web site for sports fans, http://www.fanfuego.com.

That being said, I love the quote about using social media within a gospel-centered diet. Yes, churches and ministry organizations need to use *every available tool* to reach others for Christ. At the same time, so do individuals. And ultimately, I think we can agree the best use of social media tools will stem from people having a genuine heart to reach the lost.

That, however, does not just happen. It takes time for people to grow in their walks and develop a heart of compassion, and to see what that looks like in real life. It means having an open seat within a church small group, taking a leap of faith to invite someone to attend a weekly meeting with you, praying over a Top Ten list and watching God show up and show off. It involves authentic Christ-followers sharing their struggles, and yet genuinely striving to follow God and make wise choices.

So in the end, social media tools can reinforce people’s beliefs, and even promote or introduce seekers and carnal Christians to spiritual truths. But beyond that, it still comes down to God’s people spending quantity time with God’s people to change the world.

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